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Working medium and the analysis of narrative structuresThe book is divided into chapters that focus on topics such as truth memories and their repression relationships between people group experiences and mentality The authors discuss issues of subjective truth dynamic evolving truth intersubjective truth and the closely related topics of malleability of memory self invention and psychotherapy as a scheme to create reconstruct a patient s memoriesI have found everything in the book interesting but the theme that I relate to most strongly is the one I refer to in the epigraph human relationships as interactions between projected fictions Here Mr Coetzee even mentions the so called Turing test for dialogue where one has to decide whether their interlocutor who is not visible is an actual human being or rather a computer program Another of his key observations is relations between people as a matter of interlocking fictions When the fictions interlock well the relation works or seems to work I am not sure that there is a difference between the two When they don t interlock conflict or disengagement follow When noting the human tendency toward creating fictions about themselves Dr Kurtz claims We need the fictions of others to know ourselves Mr Coetzee clarifies the claim We need the fictions of others about us in order to form our fictions of ourselves If it were proper to take sides in the discussion between Mr Coetzee and Ms Kurtz I would certainly be on the author s side I agree with most everything he says in the discussion and importantly I believe that the ideas he puts forward are deeper and fundamental To me Ms Kurtz is too immersed in the Freudian canon with its limited and restrictive intellectual toolkit To me her most important contributions are the fascinating insights into the practice of psychotherapyA captivating illuminating and deep read which I would rate with five stars if not for the fact that the authors too often talk past each other and not necessarily with each other Still a great bookFour and a uarter stars good snippets on psychoanalysis here and there from Kurtz I genuinely appreciated her role in this novel as she brought the discussion back to utilitarian workings of the therapist in discussion with Coetzee s thingsperhaps I do not appreciate Coetzee s style of writing but throughout this exchange I found some of his comments not only irrelevant but at Times Rude I Was Thoroughly rude i was thoroughly when it came to me that this was the most celebrated living writer of the English language thus half of the novel as a result holds significantly less weight if any reader is in hope of reading slightly denser psychological material sorry i m not sorry Coetzee but the moralistic concerns that are continually raised are totally out of context to the situation in dealing with patients A writer and a psychologist exchange e mails The writer seems to have a bee in his bonnet about the way the world works particularly in the arenas of repression regression and group dynamics The psychologist does her very best to respond to his arguments constantly clarifying that she can speak only from her experience as a psychologist The writer appears to feel his only limitation lies At is illuminating and thought provoking the authors discuss both individual psychology and the psychology of the group the school classroom gangs and the settler nation in which the brutal deeds of ancestors are accommodated into a national story Drawing on great writers like Cervantes and Dostoevsky and psychoanalysts like Freud and Melanie Klein Coetzee and Kurtz explore the human capacity for self examination our wish to tell our own life stories and the resistances we encounter along the wa. ,

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You seek to explain and so onRecommended for the above and for two fascinating discussions of Dostoevsky and Sebald and what they have to say about the nature of confession and the extent to which we can know things andor come to terms with our histories I ve mentioned before that I think novelists and psychotherapists are in a similar business et the fictional therapists we encounter on the page sometimes fail to convince So what better way for the writer bent on creating a credible fictional therapist than to eavesdrop on a conversation between a winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature and a clinical psychologist lecturer and psychoanalytic psychotherapist As JM Coetzee and Arabella Kurtz toss ideas back and forth about the intersection between truth story and morality the writer is afforded a remarkable insight into the workings of the therapist s mindFull review I m constantly fascinated by how story and narrative play out in how we live and construct our lives and this issue becomes fascinating when ou insert fiction into the mix Coetzee brings his experience as a fiction writer and a teacher to the conversation to contrast with Kurtz s clinical perspective and the deep topics of truth vs fiction are exploredDostoyevsky Dickens Hardy along with Coetzee s veiled suggestion that Hester Prynne s scarlet letter was describing all of the Puritans as Assholes that Hester Prynne s scarlet letter was describing all of the Puritans as Assholes one author I didn t know WG Sebald are all discussed with a flurry of new insights I also enjoyed Coetzee s speculation that psychotherapy was secularism s answer to the confessional The book is also about living the good life or making a good story out of our life The one place the book headed that was totally unexpected was group dynamics Almost half of the book was on how stories both fictional and psychotherapeutic play out in groups In hindsight this could have been predicted due to Coetzee s constant struggle with his Afrikaners background Groups behaving badly are actually frightening than individuals behaving badly The one drawback was this book was a dialogue and because of that sometimes left me wanting them to dwell on a topic they were discussing instead of moving on but this is why it is a book I will keep coming back to so I can do what Coetzee said the written word can t really do and that is carry on a dialogue with these two fascinating people in my own head I think I need to talk to my therapist about that we can entertain the notion that we are continually engaging with constructions fictions of others rather than with their real selves We can also entertain the plausible and interesting notion that our engagements are with a constantly changing interplay between shadows fictions and glimpses of the real The Good Story 2015 by JM Coetzee and Arabella Kurtz is based on a fascinating premise This non fiction volume is framed as a discussion between Mr Coetzee the Nobel Prize winning writer and one of my most favorite authors and Dr Arabella Kurtz a psychotherapist This combination of specialties is not as as it might seem we read in the Authors Note that literature and psychotherapy have a lot in common for instance the interest in human experience the use of language as the common. Terest in moral psychology and a psychotherapist with training in literary studies Coetzee and Kurtz consider psychotherapy and its wider social context from different perspectives but at the heart of both of their approaches is a concern with narrative Working alone the writer is in control of the story he or she tells The therapist on the other hand collaborates with the patient in developing an account of the patient's life and identity that is both meaningful and trueIn a meeting of minds th. The Good Story
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The book doesn t always hold the reader s attention but the whole exchange between Kurtz and Coetzee is marked by moments of startling insight and humanity Coetzee s comments reveal his keen though obviously expected investment in what it means to tell stories in novels as well as in real life Kurtz s responses strikingly original and fearless not only refect a sharp intellect at work but also an individual who speaks With Great Elouence And Wisdom About The Discipline That She great elouence and wisdom about the discipline that she and practices Coetzee and psychotherapist Arabella Kurtz discuss memory repression and narrative in the context of both fiction and psychotherapy The scope ranges from the the context of both fiction and psychotherapy The scope ranges from the level to societal I especially liked the section where they discuss South Africa and Australia s colonial violence and how those memories are processed and repressed in the present Interestingly Kurtz seems comfortable with the slipperiness of real truth than Coetzee the fiction writer The book ends with Coetzee positing that in both fiction and psychotherapy truth must be revealed for things to work out as they should Why are there no stories about people who happily deceive themselves forever This uestion is asked in several ways but not definitively answered Reading this felt like reading the transcript for a very long very intellectual podcast If that appeals to ou then great Because there is a lot of interesting ideas discussed here However those ideas are not as interconnected as I would have liked since this entire book really is just one long conversation between two monologuing intellectuals 0 and for a book I felt like this lacked the cohesive tissue needed to tie Coetzee and Kurtz s admittedly compelling arguments and rationalizations together Instead it comes across like two deeply intelligent thinkers talking past each other from the perspective of their respective fields This leads to some fascinating content to be sure but there was a distance between the two sides that was never bridged a distance between the two sides that was never bridged the book to feel like two separate academic journals conversing with each other at a tangential distance Again there s some very good very worthwhile material here but the presentation and cohesion of it was lacking for me Well written and interesting even if sometimes it was a little bit too easy but ok not everybody has a background studying this type of thingsBen scritto ed interessante anche se a volte molte cose sono state ipersemplificate ma immagino che non che tutti possano avere alle spalle anni di studi sull argomento More Coetzee Good for the soulThis book is the written record of a dialogue between Coetzee and a psychotherapist Arabella Kurtz The subject matter is interesting if somewhat unfocused The character and progression of their dialogue the way they talk to and around each other was to my mind the real hero of this book I found their interaction highly stimulating and it made me wonder why books like this don t exist We have the institution of the public discussion on a stage with an audience but having the dialogue take place on paper seems to my mind a better way of going about things You can take time ou can review what was said Un hros pour Rayne (Delta Force Heroes t. 1) you can expressourself in the best way that reflects what. JM Coetzee What relationship do I have with my life history Am I its conscious author or should I think of myself as simply a voice uttering with as little interference as possible a stream of words welling up from my interiorArabella Kurtz One way of thinking about psychoanalysis is to say that it is aimed at setting free the narrative or autobiographical imagination The Good Story is a fascinating dialogue about psychotherapy and the art of storytelling between a writer with a long standing in. ,